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Re: 2017 NFL Draft RECAP

By Gustoon
4/29/2017 9:55 am
Brrexkl wrote:
Pernbronze wrote:
The Bears trade isn't as bad as you'd think at first glance Trubisky was going to be taken #2 no matter what the only question at the time was who would be the 49ers trade partner. The Bears knew this and clearly view him as the future. I actually really like the pick and think he made a smart move, Glennon is good but I wouldn't call him spectacular. This will give them the ability to teach Trubisky the right way and get Glennon a year in as a starter then they will have the option to give Trubisky another year on the bench if needed or have a great backup for Glennon or trade Glennon for a nice draft pick (they will get what Glennon is worth regardless). So if Glennon is a bust then they have Trubisky and don't have a major setback. If Glennon is great, they can Trade Trubisky. If Glennon is great but Trubisky is better they get a high pick and a franchise QB. If Glennon is middling, there is a chance of a good pick from a desperate team or having a pretty good security blanket for Trubisky. To me this was smart long ball thinking to make 90% sure they have a franchise QB and real peace of mind at the position. Think Farve/Rodgers (minus the retirement nonsense).


That's the thing, no one was taking Trubisky at #2. Chicago bid against themselves.

Also, if Glennon tears it up, no one is giving you a 1st for Trubisky. You're going to lose value on him.


Yep, agreed.
He will be another ultimate boom or bust, if he were in an MFN draft he would have volatility of around 90 ;)
Hasn't come from a pro style offense, played in how many games? And now expected to be pro ready this year / next year. Hmm we have the same problem with Hackenburg.

Re: 2017 NFL Draft RECAP

By Pernbronze
4/29/2017 11:20 am
I seem to recall the same being said of Mariota.

Re: 2017 NFL Draft RECAP

By parsh
4/29/2017 1:17 pm
Gustoon wrote:
Weirdly, MFN26 has just had a draft and the Jets drafted 2 safeties round 1 and 2 as well....spooky...they even have the same names?!?!
- Round 1 Jamal Adams
- Round 2 Marcus Maye


Me thinks the extra credits allowed name changes ;) lol

Re: 2017 NFL Draft RECAP

By Gustoon
4/29/2017 1:44 pm
parsh wrote:
Gustoon wrote:
Weirdly, MFN26 has just had a draft and the Jets drafted 2 safeties round 1 and 2 as well....spooky...they even have the same names?!?!
- Round 1 Jamal Adams
- Round 2 Marcus Maye


Me thinks the extra credits allowed name changes ;) lol


This , alas is true..... BUT look at when I drafted 2 safeties, that is weird

Re: 2017 NFL Draft RECAP

By CrimsonWolfZ
4/30/2017 1:00 pm
I'm tired of this narative that the Bears gave away their draft for Trubisky. First off at the end of the day the Bears only lost a 3 rounder and moved from 36 to 45 in the second round after trading back for more picks. The Bears didn't mortgage their future like other teams the last two drafts trading up for a QB; the Rams, Eagles, Cheifs, and Texans gave up at least a future first, some mutiple high picks for a QB. Personally I didn't like the trade at first but there are reports that the 49ners had offers, and even the Bears had offers for number 3 before the trade. This is the first time since 1951 that the Bears can say they chose the first QB in a draft. Also Mike Gleenon's is the 23 highest QB contract and is only 18M guaranteed meaning after one season the Bears can cut him with only a 3M penalty making him a perfect Bridge QB.

Re: 2017 NFL Draft RECAP

By Brrexkl
4/30/2017 3:39 pm
CrimsonWolfZ wrote:
I'm tired of this narative that the Bears gave away their draft for Trubisky. First off at the end of the day the Bears only lost a 3 rounder and moved from 36 to 45 in the second round after trading back for more picks. The Bears didn't mortgage their future like other teams the last two drafts trading up for a QB; the Rams, Eagles, Cheifs, and Texans gave up at least a future first, some mutiple high picks for a QB. Personally I didn't like the trade at first but there are reports that the 49ners had offers, and even the Bears had offers for number 3 before the trade. This is the first time since 1951 that the Bears can say they chose the first QB in a draft. Also Mike Gleenon's is the 23 highest QB contract and is only 18M guaranteed meaning after one season the Bears can cut him with only a 3M penalty making him a perfect Bridge QB.


The narrative isn't that the Bears gave away their Draft, the narrative is that they gave away Free Picks because no one else was moving to #2 for Trubisky and SF was set on Solomon Thomas.

Re: 2017 NFL Draft RECAP

By Pernbronze
4/30/2017 3:40 pm
Brrexkl wrote:
CrimsonWolfZ wrote:
I'm tired of this narative that the Bears gave away their draft for Trubisky. First off at the end of the day the Bears only lost a 3 rounder and moved from 36 to 45 in the second round after trading back for more picks. The Bears didn't mortgage their future like other teams the last two drafts trading up for a QB; the Rams, Eagles, Cheifs, and Texans gave up at least a future first, some mutiple high picks for a QB. Personally I didn't like the trade at first but there are reports that the 49ners had offers, and even the Bears had offers for number 3 before the trade. This is the first time since 1951 that the Bears can say they chose the first QB in a draft. Also Mike Gleenon's is the 23 highest QB contract and is only 18M guaranteed meaning after one season the Bears can cut him with only a 3M penalty making him a perfect Bridge QB.


The narrative isn't that the Bears gave away their Draft, the narrative is that they gave away Free Picks because no one else was moving to #2 for Trubisky and SF was set on Solomon Thomas.


Given the QB trades that happened after that, I have a hard time believing that.

Re: 2017 NFL Draft RECAP

By Brrexkl
4/30/2017 3:43 pm
Pernbronze wrote:
Brrexkl wrote:
CrimsonWolfZ wrote:
I'm tired of this narative that the Bears gave away their draft for Trubisky. First off at the end of the day the Bears only lost a 3 rounder and moved from 36 to 45 in the second round after trading back for more picks. The Bears didn't mortgage their future like other teams the last two drafts trading up for a QB; the Rams, Eagles, Cheifs, and Texans gave up at least a future first, some mutiple high picks for a QB. Personally I didn't like the trade at first but there are reports that the 49ners had offers, and even the Bears had offers for number 3 before the trade. This is the first time since 1951 that the Bears can say they chose the first QB in a draft. Also Mike Gleenon's is the 23 highest QB contract and is only 18M guaranteed meaning after one season the Bears can cut him with only a 3M penalty making him a perfect Bridge QB.


The narrative isn't that the Bears gave away their Draft, the narrative is that they gave away Free Picks because no one else was moving to #2 for Trubisky and SF was set on Solomon Thomas.


Given the QB trades that happened after that, I have a hard time believing that.


You can have a hard time believing it. That's cool.

What you are failing to miss is that SF wasn't going to miss out on Thomas. He was The Guy for them. Some reports say they had him #1 over Garrett.

They moved down one spot because they could get Thomas. They move down 2, 3 or more... they risk losing him.

Solomon Thomas is why SF wasn't Trading any further down than #3 Overall, and they were only going to #3 because they knew Chicago was going QB at #2 and the Browns were going Garrett at #1.

Re: 2017 NFL Draft RECAP

By Pernbronze
4/30/2017 5:26 pm
The 49ers also had a TON of holes, if they got a decent offer for more picks I don't see them not taking it especially given Thomas is a DE, they just drafted DE's the last 2 drafts. I don't think they were nearly as it has to be him and only him as you think. The Bears simply gave them the best value. I have no doubt that as long as there was a reasonable offer the 49ers were moving back and stocking up on picks.

Re: 2017 NFL Draft RECAP

By CrimsonWolfZ
4/30/2017 5:37 pm
49ners gm Lynch went on record today and said that they had legimate offers for the number 2 pick and called Pace, Bears gm, to see if they would beat other team's offers.