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Changing devices

By raymattison21
11/04/2016 10:29 am
I do not know how to change devices. I lost my password again and forgot the password of my email i created for this game........again. Might as well start over again. This gets boring. Just to switch to new more compatable device in my own home.

Why cant i just veiw my own password in the account settings? Please! I am the only one who uses this account. I mean i would have to give out my password for anyone to see it, but i dont even know it.

Really everybody should be able to veiw there personal info. Its personal right! Either way i dont care about account corruption. I want to be able overide blockers on my return team.

Re: Changing devices

By Ares
11/04/2016 2:45 pm
All your accounts should have a method by which to retrieve or reset a lost password. Being able to view your password at any time should not be a "right" because the game has no way to ensure that it is in fact you who's viewing it. For instance, say someone logged into MFN on a public terminal, or lost their mobile device, and failed to log-off, then anyone who subsequently had access to it could view their password. In itself this isn't all that bad, since there's limited mischief to be caused on a football management site. However, many people inadvisably re-use the same passwords across multiple sites, which could allow someone to then force access to more sensitive accounts.

Re: Changing devices

By punisher
11/04/2016 2:55 pm
Ares wrote:

For instance, say someone logged into MFN on a public terminal, or lost their mobile device, and failed to log-off, then anyone who subsequently had access to it could view their password. In itself this isn't all that bad, since there's limited mischief to be caused on a football management site.


well i known of people who played another game where on facebook they forget to log off and a person (not sure who) decided to sell every player (WGT Baseball) and sell most of their cars they had (Cartown).
And to be quite frank when something like that happens where someone sells everything or close to everything it becomes a mess with the person telling the game company then the game company cant do anything because they are not sure if that person did it or someone else did.
Now if you add that equation into MFN lets say someone forget to log off and could see all the teams that person has where they could ABANDON every single one or trade/cut every player on those teams to be honest it would be a nightmare to JDB to having to deal with that issue.
so i have to agree with you on your statement.

Ares wrote:
However, many people inadvisably re-use the same passwords across multiple sites, which could allow someone to then force access to more sensitive accounts.


actually thats why the so called experts tell you to make sure to use a different password for all your sites and even use a different username for all your sites.

Re: Changing devices

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
11/04/2016 3:34 pm
The way passwords are stored in the database actually is what's called a salted one-way hash ... which means that you cannot retrieve the password by looking in the database. The reason this is best practices for websites is because if for some reason the database is hacked, the hacker can not easily retrieve your passwords. When you see a data breach and passwords are leaked, the passwords were discovered by running a script that sees if various common passwords/dictionary words/etc will authenticate against the database hash, a process that takes a lot of computing power and a lot of time. (This is why it's a bad idea to use simple, guessable passwords, especially across multiple accounts, because if a hacker is able to figure out a password you use all the time they can try logging in with it on various websites and possibly get into your financial accounts. But I digress...) The point is, even if I felt like it was a good idea (which I don't - but, hey, I make a living working with web-based financial transactions so maybe I'm a bit overboard about security), I don't have a way to show you your password.

You can always reset your password if you forget it, and of course you can change it as often as you like.

Re: Changing devices

By punisher
11/04/2016 3:42 pm
jdavidbakr wrote:
The way passwords are stored in the database actually is what's called a salted one-way hash ... which means that you cannot retrieve the password by looking in the database. The reason this is best practices for websites is because if for some reason the database is hacked, the hacker can not easily retrieve your passwords. When you see a data breach and passwords are leaked, the passwords were discovered by running a script that sees if various common passwords/dictionary words/etc will authenticate against the database hash, a process that takes a lot of computing power and a lot of time. (This is why it's a bad idea to use simple, guessable passwords, especially across multiple accounts, because if a hacker is able to figure out a password you use all the time they can try logging in with it on various websites and possibly get into your financial accounts. But I digress...) The point is, even if I felt like it was a good idea (which I don't - but, hey, I make a living working with web-based financial transactions so maybe I'm a bit overboard about security), I don't have a way to show you your password.

You can always reset your password if you forget it, and of course you can change it as often as you like.


Too Bad other websites dont do it the way you do on this site for the passwords then you would never hear , read ,etc. about a data breach .

would even think data breach wouldnt be in the vocabulary.

anyway great job on doing it the way you did with your database.

Re: Changing devices

By raymattison21
11/04/2016 7:41 pm
jdavidbakr wrote:


You can always reset your password if you forget it, and of course you can change it as often as you like.


You are now relying on me again....when it comes to computers i am lost. This is the help i need and your reponse is the same.

You reqiured me to have an email in the first place. I do not know that password either.

Clearly this is common computer knowledge but what my crafty self would do is;

I am going to use another ip to make another account, and when i drop this team i will quickly grab one of my two teams. Then repeat. As long as my devices are at the two complete different ip adresses i should be fine right?

Re: Changing devices

By WarEagle
11/04/2016 10:47 pm
raymattison21 wrote:


You are now relying on me again....


To remember the password you chose? Uh...yes.

You might consider writing it down somewhere next time.

Re: Changing devices

By raymattison21
11/05/2016 12:52 am
My plan of fool proof.....

Re: Changing devices

By raymattison21
11/05/2016 12:55 am
WarEagle wrote:
raymattison21 wrote:


You are now relying on me again....


To remember the password you chose? Uh...yes.

You might consider writing it down somewhere next time.



Your guys way failed...twice. Time to try it my way. I really dont want to lose these teams.

Heck its just a game.....

Re: Changing devices

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
11/05/2016 11:09 am
When logged out, click on the 'forgot password' tab on the home page. Enter the email address you used to register, you'll get an email with your new password. Once you have that, log in and go to Account->My Account and then to the "change password" tab, and change your password.

If you no longer have access to the email you signed up with, you can go to Account->My Account and change your email to the one you are currently using. You will have to confirm the new email and then at that point you can go through the password reset steps.