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Panther729

By Morbid
7/28/2014 7:11 am
Something needs to be done about him and all the lopsided trades he has made in MFN1, MFN2 and MFN6. I know you took back some of trades in MFN6 but he still got away with a top QB,HB and WR for nothing. Now I just looked over his transactions in MFN1 and 2 and he did the same thing. I personally think he should get suspended for a season and all players involved in trades should become Free Agents on league completion. I am going to post this on forums also as I do not think this is fair play and should not go through as it effects many seasons of gameplay.

Thanks

Jim

Also look into who his trading partners have been also.

Re: Panther729

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
7/28/2014 7:53 am
Morbid wrote:
Something needs to be done about him and all the lopsided trades he has made in MFN1, MFN2 and MFN6. I know you took back some of trades in MFN6 but he still got away with a top QB,HB and WR for nothing. Now I just looked over his transactions in MFN1 and 2 and he did the same thing. I personally think he should get suspended for a season and all players involved in trades should become Free Agents on league completion. I am going to post this on forums also as I do not think this is fair play and should not go through as it effects many seasons of gameplay.

Thanks

Jim

Also look into who his trading partners have been also.


For those of you who are not in MFN-2, please weigh in on the thread linked below, as how we end up handling this will probably be a precedent for how we handle this in the future:

http://mfn2.myfootballnow.com/forums/1/134

Re: Panther729

By Tecra031
7/28/2014 8:10 am
I agree and brought this up a month ago on MFN1 privately. The trades here were ridiculous as well and horribly unbalanced. Not sure which of the options mentioned is the best way to go, I would support options 2, 3, or 4 from the MFN2 thread based on popular opinion.

Re: Panther729

By chinaski
7/28/2014 8:16 am
Seems pretty clear he's controlling Philadelphia as well.

Re: Panther729

By Firefly
7/30/2014 9:43 am
I also brought this up privately. I've no idea how this should be handled, but the main thing is to avoid lopsided trades in the future. I don't understand how the game allowed the Bruno trade. He gets the higher rated player, the higher draft pick and the greater number of picks.

I think what I'd do is simply void the trades that are simply wrong. I'd also add a limit to the number of picks/players that can be traded in a single transaction and ban player/picks for player/picks combos. I'm pretty sure somewhere in the complexity is where the system got broke. I think three picks tops per player OR two players for one player. Sure, it might limit some legitimate trades, but it still allows most things.

Re: Panther729

By Morbid
7/30/2014 10:53 am
Firefly wrote:
I also brought this up privately. I've no idea how this should be handled, but the main thing is to avoid lopsided trades in the future. I don't understand how the game allowed the Bruno trade. He gets the higher rated player, the higher draft pick and the greater number of picks.

I think what I'd do is simply void the trades that are simply wrong. I'd also add a limit to the number of picks/players that can be traded in a single transaction and ban player/picks for player/picks combos. I'm pretty sure somewhere in the complexity is where the system got broke. I think three picks tops per player OR two players for one player. Sure, it might limit some legitimate trades, but it still allows most things.



JDB did a great job of fixing this up. He reversed some trades and the others he couldnt in other leagues he put the players on the DL for remainder of season and reduced the contracts to one year so they all will be FA next season for everyone to make bids on. Some trades that had draft picks involved he left alone as he saw they are equal. I belive from now on any trades or transactions will be highlighted like the new messages on here so everyone can monitor and question the trade. Only thing I have noticed in trades tho is it doesnt show the draft picks involved as you have to look at a teams future draft picks to see if there was any.

Re: Panther729

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
7/30/2014 11:01 am
If you go to the trades page (Messages->Trades) and view the league trades you can see what exactly happened for each trade. That's the info I plan to publish into a forum whenever a trade is executed.

Through the past year we've gone from having this kind of thing next to impossible to do (but also severely restricting legitimate trades in the process) to where we are today (where the trade engine isn't nearly as restrictive); I think I would rather err on letting people feel like they can actually make trades than to be overly aggressive in blocking them. So much of the reason a trade is imbalanced is subjective, making it difficult if not impossible to write an acceptable AI rule engine to police them. I didn't want to restrict the # of items each side can offer in a trade, but I may have to just to help reduce the opportunity to take advantage of the system.

I appreciate your support and suggestions as we hammer these kinds of issues out!
Last edited at 7/30/2014 11:02 am

Re: Panther729

By Phinsfan
8/02/2014 9:51 pm
thought Detroit/Panther729 would have some players disabled in this league as in others??? just wondering, that is a stacked team but maybe legit?

Re: Panther729

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
8/02/2014 10:01 pm
Phinsfan wrote:
thought Detroit/Panther729 would have some players disabled in this league as in others??? just wondering, that is a stacked team but maybe legit?


I did disable some players but some he did give up some high picks for so I left them. If you want to make an argument about any of the trades I didn't disable players for, feel free, I'm not opposed to doing more but also don't want to make it bad for the next owner since I doubt he'll stick around.