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Re: [0.4.5] Version 0bea00b

By raymattison21
1/11/2019 10:38 am
setherick wrote:
This is the worst over pursuit by a safety that I have seen: https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/9155#1668527

The QB throws the ball less than a yard from where the safety was standing before he started to move upfield.

One nice thing from my game that I really liked. I ran a game plan that threw a lot of long passes that had short-to-intermediate routes as a secondary route. I didn't take any sacks, although I got pressured plenty, and the QB spread the ball around.

The reason I like this is because I don't see a point in the Short-Medium-Long play calls most of the time. Most passing plays should run levels, so why does it matter in the middle of the field on first or second down what the play distance is? Only in situational football does that become important, and then you have to game plan your personnel as well as play call to get your appropriate distances. So being able to call a lot of Medium and Long passes and have the QB throw to the open receiver is a win. And, for what it's worth, the QB didn't checkdown immediately on all of these throws, which is also a win.

If I took the time to really build a solid game plan around it, I would probably do better with it. This was just a quick experiment.


Last two games we have thrown 37 short , 31 med, and 19 Long passes . As for the classification of passes , they have been understood by me to account for the drops qb take. 1, 3, and 5 step drops .....something like that, as the qb would/ should set his feet before throwing ?

Still, I will threw Long passes on 1st down 8 times, 8 on 2nd, and 3 on 3rd. Really , the distances don't matter for my plans . They are a tool to get plays where I want without rules.

Re: [0.4.5] Version 0bea00b

By setherick
1/11/2019 7:26 pm
Did the timing for short passes on non-short play calls change?
Last edited at 1/11/2019 7:26 pm

Re: [0.4.5] Version 0bea00b

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
1/12/2019 11:42 am
setherick wrote:
Did the timing for short passes on non-short play calls change?


Not recently, no.

Re: [0.4.5] Version 0bea00b

By setherick
1/12/2019 11:56 am
jdavidbakr wrote:
setherick wrote:
Did the timing for short passes on non-short play calls change?


Not recently, no.


Trying to figure why the QB waits longer to checkdown on some personnel sets like the 203 and 113 than on the 212 sets.

Re: [0.4.5] Version 0bea00b

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
1/12/2019 12:25 pm
setherick wrote:
jdavidbakr wrote:
setherick wrote:
Did the timing for short passes on non-short play calls change?


Not recently, no.


Trying to figure why the QB waits longer to checkdown on some personnel sets like the 203 and 113 than on the 212 sets.


Look at the route that the primary receiver is running, that may be an indicator. (Sometimes, though, the QB is looking off the safety so who he's looking at is not the primary, but still you might find an actual route that seems to have consistently bad timing, as the timing is specific to each route)

Re: [0.4.5] Version 0bea00b

By raymattison21
1/14/2019 11:06 am
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/9178#1672595

Here's a hold called on the wr after a catch

Re: [0.4.5] Version 0bea00b

By raymattison21
1/14/2019 11:21 am
We're blitzing on 40 % of plays and sacking qbs often. Coverage sacks got to be up. Good or bad that seems different .

It would be nice to see some end route logic that sends wrs to open spaces. Perhaps back towards the qb or deep if it is there .

Re: [0.4.5] Version 0bea00b

By raymattison21
1/15/2019 8:02 am
I also, have a wr that draws more DPI s than catches. I don't think he can even get off the line. Catch over or penalty about five yard down feild . That never gonna happen irl. Fix bump please

And guys are called for a penalty within five yards? I thought that was a free zone?

Re: [0.4.5] Version 0bea00b

By setherick
1/15/2019 10:16 am
raymattison21 wrote:
I also, have a wr that draws more DPI s than catches. I don't think he can even get off the line. Catch over or penalty about five yard down feild . That never gonna happen irl. Fix bump please

And guys are called for a penalty within five yards? I thought that was a free zone?



You can make contact within five yards as long as the ball is not in the air if I remember the rule correctly.

Re: [0.4.5] Version 0bea00b

By setherick
1/16/2019 11:50 pm
I had a lot of wildly bad passes last game. I think part of it was due to coverage and part of it was due to limited play knowledge affecting accuracy, but it's something I'm going to keep a closer eye on.

1) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/9195#1675578
a) QB doesn't wait long enough for the outside WRs to run their routes. He has plenty of time here to wait.

2) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/9195#1675580
a) This pass is no where near where the TE is going. The TE is wide open here.

3) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/9195#1675609
a) Pass goes nowhere near the WR, and the WR doesn't react to the ball in the air.

4) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/9195#1675622
a) Another one that goes no where near the WR.