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Re: 0.4.4 - All the Problems

By setherick
8/17/2018 5:15 pm
CrazyRazor wrote:
There are entirely too many dump-off passes to the RB's currently. In this game, my RB led all recievers in catches and yards. That should never happen. https://nfl.myfootballnow.com/box/1878


I've started making sure my back isn't involved when I need to throw more than 5 yards for this reason.

Re: 0.4.4 - All the Problems

By Infinity on Trial
8/17/2018 9:05 pm
CrazyRazor wrote:
There are entirely too many dump-off passes to the RB's currently. In this game, my RB led all recievers in catches and yards. That should never happen. https://nfl.myfootballnow.com/box/1878


I see this as a distraction from actual problems with passing and coverage. I am thankful for the increased dumpoffs. And it isn't uncommon for a RB to lead a team in caches, dating to at least Larry Centers and Kimble Anders.

Re: 0.4.4 - All the Problems

By CrazyRazor
8/17/2018 9:33 pm
Infinity on Trial wrote:
CrazyRazor wrote:
There are entirely too many dump-off passes to the RB's currently. In this game, my RB led all recievers in catches and yards. That should never happen. https://nfl.myfootballnow.com/box/1878


I see this as a distraction from actual problems with passing and coverage. I am thankful for the increased dumpoffs. And it isn't uncommon for a RB to lead a team in caches, dating to at least Larry Centers and Kimble Anders.


Well, let's clarify that the dumpoffs are not the remedy for dropped passes, nor are they the remedy for completed passes into double/triple coverage. I'm pointing out this should not have been the avenue that was taken to attempt to remedy anything. It masks the issues in the passing game. It masks the issues in the running game. It is a band-aid and it is a terrible one. That is my point. Just consider how many dumpoffs are dropped based on this new code, if we want to argue the distraction.
You guys have made it clear already that completion percentage was terrible and the passes into coverage were still a problem. I'm simply bringing up another issue that was created by this newest code.

Furthermore, we shouldn't be discussing anything related to the passing game in this thread. JDB made it clear that he was addressing the running game with 0.4.4.
There's a distraction for you.

Re: 0.4.4 - All the Problems

By setherick
8/17/2018 9:34 pm
That's why this is the ALL THE PROBLEMS(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) thread and not the Run Blocking one. I created two.

Re: 0.4.4 - All the Problems

By CrazyRazor
8/17/2018 9:39 pm
Then this thread is a moot point to me. Carry on with the complaints. I'll worry about the run game, since this is a thread based on issues with the current code and poorly titled.

Re: 0.4.4 - All the Problems

By Infinity on Trial
8/17/2018 9:43 pm
Let me be more clear: A mild uptick in RB dumpoffs is a good thing, and unrelated to core problems with passing or coverage (or running). Irrelevant diatribes derailed a beta code that offered modest improvements and led to the total garbage that got deployed.

Re: 0.4.4 - All the Problems

By Infinity on Trial
8/17/2018 9:44 pm
CrazyRazor wrote:
Then this thread is a moot point to me. Carry on with the complaints. I'll worry about the run game, since this is a thread based on issues with the current code and poorly titled.


In any forum, under any topic, increased throws to RBs is a good thing.

Re: 0.4.4 - All the Problems

By CrazyRazor
8/17/2018 9:53 pm
Infinity on Trial wrote:
Let me be more clear: A mild uptick in RB dumpoffs is a good thing, and unrelated to core problems with passing or coverage (or running). Irrelevant diatribes derailed a beta code that offered modest improvements and led to the total garbage that got deployed.


Mild uptick? In that game I posted, 11/27 completed passes were to RB's. That is not mild. I didn't have a problem with the increase in the previous code, but this is absurd. I'm certainly happy that a majority of GM's place 200 lb RB's with acceptional pass catch in the backfield.

Re: 0.4.4 - All the Problems

By CrazyRazor
8/17/2018 9:54 pm
Is JDB gonna fix anything related to the passing game in this update? That's the main question I have. Based on what I've read, the answer is "No".

Re: 0.4.4 - All the Problems

By Infinity on Trial
8/17/2018 9:57 pm
CrazyRazor wrote:
Is JDB gonna fix anything related to the passing game in this update? That's the main question I have. Based on what I've read, the answer is "No".


He didn't fix anything related to the passing game in the last update, either.