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Re: [Update] Passing logic rewrite is ready

By setherick
10/06/2018 3:25 pm
The come in from the cold code is throwing off game analysis of the second half of most games.

Re: [Update] Passing logic rewrite is ready

By setherick
10/06/2018 4:03 pm
The coverage bug is back: https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8664#1570626

Re: [Update] Passing logic rewrite is ready

By Beercloud
10/06/2018 8:34 pm
I had a play where my WR cut upfield and the QB threw the pass like he was expecting him to cut the other way. It was pretty kool. It only happened once that game which was pretty kool as well. Let me go through the log and see if I can find it to post.

https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8660#1569884
Last edited at 10/06/2018 8:35 pm

Re: [Update] Passing logic rewrite is ready

By setherick
10/09/2018 5:50 am
Only watching the first half of games because the come in from the cold code makes it hard to get good data in preseason, and I'm fine with that.

1) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8688#1575015
a) This one goes no where near where the WR is running

2) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8688#1575027
a) Another one that ends up well behind the WR

3) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8688#1575029
a) This is ridiculous. Multiple passes just like this in the first half. OK, this is going to sound really mean, but your algorithm doesn't depict how NFL QBs throw the ball at all. NFL QBs put the ball out in front of a WR and have the WR make the play on the ball. Most of the time when QBs miss a throw for distance, it's because they have overthrown the play, NOT underthrown it. In most of the throws I've seen, the QB underthrows the play or throws the exact distance and misses on accuracy. Neither of these really does a good job of simulating a throw. The only passes I've seen that actaully look good are the lazer short-to-mid passes.

4) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8688#1575039
a) The logic on these hitch routes is laughable. The WR should ACTUALLY HITCH, which means he should drive the DB hard upfield, gain inside position, and then suddenly turn toward the QB at the moment the QB throws it. That gives the DB no time to react to the play. That's how the hitch is supposed to work.

Re: [Update] Passing logic rewrite is ready

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
10/09/2018 8:44 pm
Several updates for the next game sim:

* Stretch Armstrong knockdowns should be eliminated
* Overthrows should now be the standard for the QB missing the target especially with longer passes
* Curl routes have been updated, several of the issues listed above were issues with curl routes
* It wasn't related to pass coverage, but the strange action of the DB at the bottom of the screen during the pitch play was indeed a bug and has been fixed
* The coverage bug should be fixed (again)

Re: [Update] Passing logic rewrite is ready

By Ragnulf-le-maudit
10/10/2018 1:50 am
PS Game 2

ouch : several yards behind the RB
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8680#1573554

Re: [Update] Passing logic rewrite is ready

By Ragnulf-le-maudit
10/11/2018 3:07 am
PS Game 3

Very early pass to the RB. Looks like a shovel.
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8695#1576274


Pretty bad defense here, the LB largely outruns the RB
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8695#1576291

Vastly underthrown pass, with way better options wide open.
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8695#1576333


Thrown behind the WR
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8695#1576342


I's difficult to say who is the target on this one. Is t overthrown or behind the upfield WR ?
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8695#1576354

Good read on the corner blitz, but very bad throw, behind the WR again
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8695#1576363

Very bad choice, the pass should never have been completed.
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8695#1576372



Last edited at 10/12/2018 3:51 am

Re: [Update] Passing logic rewrite is ready

By setherick
10/11/2018 8:57 pm
1) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8703#1577747
a) Missed tackle? Or missed interception?

2) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8703#1577761
a) Can you fix this with the passing updates? I had another near fumbled pitch that ended up 10 yards behind the LOS earlier in the game. I don't mind an RB fumbling a pitch now and then, but this just looks stupid.

3) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8703#1577801
a) Pressure?

4) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8703#1577815
a) Terrible curl. The play isn't one I'd call since the WR curls outside, but he shouldn't run around like an idiot.

5) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8703#1577818
a) Curl comes back too deep.

6) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8703#1577832
a) Another bad pitch.

7) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8703#1577839
a) There are an absurd number of OPI calls and ABSOLUTELY NO DPI calls.

Re: [Update] Passing logic rewrite is ready

By Warthog
10/11/2018 10:02 pm
setherick wrote:

2) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8703#1577761
a) Can you fix this with the passing updates? I had another near fumbled pitch that ended up 10 yards behind the LOS earlier in the game. I don't mind an RB fumbling a pitch now and then, but this just looks stupid.


Happened to me too. https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8701#1577481

Different league, but same thing happened twice from the opponents 1 yard line!
https://mfn19.myfootballnow.com/watch/5908#1119067
https://mfn19.myfootballnow.com/watch/5908#1119090
Last edited at 10/11/2018 10:08 pm

Re: [Update] Passing logic rewrite is ready

By RoyceR
10/12/2018 10:16 am
Ragnulf-le-maudit wrote:
PS Game 3


I's difficult to say who is the target on this one. Is t overthrown or behind the upfield WR ?
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8695#1576354




Play by play says 37 was the target. If you zoom in you see he is the WR lined up on the bottom of the screen. so it is behind the intended target.