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Re: 2031 Season

By setherick
3/25/2017 12:45 pm
How can I tell when my QB goes to a hot read? I haven't seen it in a game I don't think.

Never mind, I answered my own question. My opponent had four hot reads last game, but I had none. He burned me with one of them, but the others looked largely ineffective.
Last edited at 3/25/2017 12:47 pm

Re: 2031 Season

By lellow2011
3/25/2017 1:26 pm
jdavidbakr wrote:
setherick wrote:
You also are starting two OL with <=50 pass block. The RT is improving and DEs have been nerfed, so he's probably OK this year. But your 50 pass block center is going to act like a wet paper towel.


Yeah, if you have OL with < 50 pass block you should expect a lot of pressure. A lot of pressure and you should expect erratic QB play, even with an elite one. If you have OL with pass block > 75 you should see significant reduction in pressure and see your QB play more to his attributes. The current updates in MFN-1 improve pass blocking quite a bit as the OL approaches 100, but < 50 and you are going to continue to have the issues previously (as you should). Also weight is being considered now whereas it wasn't before (haven't looked to see your OL weight, it may be fine).

On the hot read issue, if it's causing more problems than it's solving should I remove it? I'll go ahead and remove it altogether for the next game and see how that works.


The issues with the hot read is that it makes that overload blitz even more effective against the lighter sets such as 4WR / 5WR stuff like that and often the QB is throwing the ball right at the DB or a tightly covered WR. If we had some control over it or the QB made better decisions with it then it might be useful.

Re: 2031 Season

By kicker10bog
3/25/2017 9:11 pm
I guess I'll try a couple different starters on OL. I've just always liked interior OL to be better at run blocking, so I had those guys in there. We'll see if my run game suffers with this change.

Re: 2031 Season

By chinaski
3/26/2017 2:53 am
jdavidbakr wrote:
chinaski wrote:
DEATH TO THE HOT READ


Are you frustrated because you are calling the hot read too much, or because your opponent is? The hot read is a response to the offense recognizing an uncovered blitzer and attempting to take advantage of it, and is more likely to happen when the offense is more familiar with the defensive play. If it's being overused I can turn it down, especially if as the offensive team it's causing problems.



Yes, the offense is calling it way to much. My QB called it 17 times last game (on 34 pass attempts) including multiple 3x in a row. Ive had over 20 a few different times this season. Two things I dislike the most about it is 1) It targets the same player every time and 2) It triggers a familiar.
Last edited at 3/26/2017 2:56 am

Re: 2031 Season

By setherick
3/26/2017 5:04 am
chinaski wrote:
jdavidbakr wrote:
chinaski wrote:
DEATH TO THE HOT READ


Are you frustrated because you are calling the hot read too much, or because your opponent is? The hot read is a response to the offense recognizing an uncovered blitzer and attempting to take advantage of it, and is more likely to happen when the offense is more familiar with the defensive play. If it's being overused I can turn it down, especially if as the offensive team it's causing problems.



Yes, the offense is calling it way to much. My QB called it 17 times last game (on 34 pass attempts) including multiple 3x in a row. Ive had over 20 a few different times this season. Two things I dislike the most about it is 1) It targets the same player every time and 2) It triggers a familiar.


The number of times you called it has more to do with your opponent than your QB. Just skimming through, it looks like most (maybe all) of your hot read passes came against the Nickle Strong Double LB CB3 blitz, which should just be one away with as a play anyway. The CB3 ALWAYS comes free on that play against the 113, so your QB is doing what he should be doing and throwing the ball to the hot read. The bigger question is why is the defensive play so effective at getting a player free and causing the QB to panic.

Re: 2031 Season

By raymattison21
3/26/2017 7:29 am
real life hot reads usually involves the receiver changing his route in unison with the qb. say the slot is running an out and the blitz is from the nickel back and the linebacker from that side all that would change the slots or TEs pattern from an out to an in or a slant. I don't see that enough or at all. perhaps my qb is missing the read, but a FS / SS in man gets there before the throw does.

this is usually an audible by the qb, but if a route has the wr making reads also (route tree or something similar) a lot of miss communication can happen cause the QB is expecting one thing and wr does another.

both are reads made based off coverages shown pre and post snap and both are based off intelligence which will help diagnose these split second reads.

yeah a pre snap read (audible by the qb) happens a lot IRL, but these reads post snap by both the wr and QB seem to not happen here at all. but like I have said my qb has 56 intelligence.

also TEs and backs do not always stay in to block. they will chip the Blitzer and immediately turn and look for the ball. I don't see that enough also. lately guys bail on there route and block while some defender still gets to the QB while he is waiting for Wrs to get open.

still, why not just put a few screen passes in that will curbs types of effective blitzes from different areas.

then take a deep look at pursuit angles by defenders. never will a 3 yard swing pass dominate passing when 7 defenders are back in zone 15 yards deep then all seven proceed to miss the back because they rocket right past him. instead of taking a safer angle. have them at least slow the back down for others to gang tackle.

I don't see a db needing 100 run defense. 30 should be poor but 70 should be way more effective.

Re: 2031 Season

By setherick
3/26/2017 1:16 pm
setherick wrote:
chinaski wrote:
jdavidbakr wrote:
chinaski wrote:
DEATH TO THE HOT READ


Are you frustrated because you are calling the hot read too much, or because your opponent is? The hot read is a response to the offense recognizing an uncovered blitzer and attempting to take advantage of it, and is more likely to happen when the offense is more familiar with the defensive play. If it's being overused I can turn it down, especially if as the offensive team it's causing problems.



Yes, the offense is calling it way to much. My QB called it 17 times last game (on 34 pass attempts) including multiple 3x in a row. Ive had over 20 a few different times this season. Two things I dislike the most about it is 1) It targets the same player every time and 2) It triggers a familiar.


The number of times you called it has more to do with your opponent than your QB. Just skimming through, it looks like most (maybe all) of your hot read passes came against the Nickle Strong Double LB CB3 blitz, which should just be one away with as a play anyway. The CB3 ALWAYS comes free on that play against the 113, so your QB is doing what he should be doing and throwing the ball to the hot read. The bigger question is why is the defensive play so effective at getting a player free and causing the QB to panic.


Coming back to this for a second.

I'd rather have more plays have a dump off receiver that the QB throws it to and only have a hot read on plays where there is no dump off man.

Re: 2031 Season

By Tecra031
3/27/2017 7:28 am
jdavidbakr wrote:

On the hot read issue, if it's causing more problems than it's solving should I remove it? I'll go ahead and remove it altogether for the next game and see how that works.


Not sure if you removed it for this week or not, but bring it back please if you did remove it. QB taking too many sacks and missing wide open WRs or underneath routes. In a league with such blitz heavy defensive schemes, that gives a little parity to the offenses. 14 total sacks this week in NYA v. MIA with good QBs on both teams. Just getting tired of heavy blitz defenses and my offense not capitalizing on it. There is no way that any team, at any level of football, can blitz heavy all game and not get burned for it.

Re: 2031 Season

By JCSwishMan33
3/27/2017 7:46 am
Getting back on track for this thread... ;) (Kidding, guys, kidding...)

GG, B'more!

Had to come 'all the way back' (only a 12-point deficit in the 2nd quarter, but hey... I'm Cleveland) in this one... And your drive right at the end was worrying me. Thankfully a well-timed INT sealed it.

The run game blew my defense apart... Nearly 2-100 yard rushers on your side of the ball. I had some yards on the ground as well, but what you did was a bit ridiculous. Heh.

The injury bug is starting to take its swings on me again, though. 2 serious injuries on the offensive side of the ball (my starting RB and RT) along with losing my starting LT and star DT... Actually playing for a playoff spot this late in the season, I'm a little bit worried if my bench can sustain success.

Re: 2031 Season

By trslick
3/27/2017 8:12 am
GG Houston, the INT'S helped us a bunch!