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Re: 0.4.2 Discussion

By raymattison21
4/28/2017 5:52 am
jdavidbakr wrote:
Yes, when the speed and acceleration values are displayed relative to weight, when a player gains weight his speed and acceleration will reduce accordingly. Strength is not relative to weight, just speed and acceleration.


Except in blocking for oline ?.....or strength is used in the push part. There has to be a difference in a 175 pound lineman and a 275 pound linemen. What would be the point of having big linemen? And small DES have been nerfed.......what was changed there. Bye bye 3-4 effectiveness . .....this whole thing is sounding in complete . Please explain what is the point of being a larger player is? Blocking .....Running . ......defending vs the run ?

Re: 0.4.2 Discussion

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
4/28/2017 8:24 am
I think you're looking for a simpler explanation than really exists. Strength is used in the blocking algorithm in a strength vs strength comparison indiscriminate of size; size is used as well, but not part of the strength section of the calculation. The entire blocking algorithm takes a composite of many calculations and comparisons to determine what happens.

Re: 0.4.2 Discussion

By kicker10bog
4/28/2017 9:58 am
I'm assuming the calculations consider it's harder to push around a 320lb guy compared to a 250lb guy of equal strength. I'm sure there are other factors too, such as acceleration and of blocking vs pass rush or run defense.

Re: 0.4.2 Discussion

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
4/28/2017 10:08 am
kicker10bog wrote:
I'm assuming the calculations consider it's harder to push around a 320lb guy compared to a 250lb guy of equal strength. I'm sure there are other factors too, such as acceleration and of blocking vs pass rush or run defense.


That is correct.

Re: 0.4.2 Discussion

By raymattison21
4/28/2017 10:44 am
I was looking for the complex explication . As it is clear I do not know how it works, but what I do know is as a player loses weight it is similar to saying he less successful in certain situations vs a player that is heavier . The only reason I ask is cause pass rushing favors heavier players unless it is a blitz .

Re: 0.4.2 Discussion

By Davesgang
4/30/2017 2:13 am
Typically a lighter player would be more prone to injury or wearing down from hits too in real life.

Re: 0.4.2 Discussion

By RLWJR
4/30/2017 4:09 am
Like Steve Largent?

Re: 0.4.2 Discussion

By CCSAHARA
5/25/2017 9:55 pm
Here are a few things I have noticed so just throwing it out there. The safety [2 point kind] seems to be out of whack with reality. In 1 and 86 I have seen my or the other team give up 2 plus in a game. While it can happen I don’t think a team giving up multiple safety’s in a game is very realistic. I also think the total amount of sacks is to high [ I know this is a constant debate] Finally it seems like a team making a first down on a third and long [ more than 10 yds] is something that happens outside of what I would think being the normal statistical range. Just my 2 cents.

Re: 0.4.2 Discussion

By mwd65
5/26/2017 2:01 am
CCSAHARA wrote:
Here are a few things I have noticed so just throwing it out there. The safety [2 point kind] seems to be out of whack with reality. In 1 and 86 I have seen my or the other team give up 2 plus in a game. While it can happen I don’t think a team giving up multiple safety’s in a game is very realistic. I also think the total amount of sacks is to high [ I know this is a constant debate] Finally it seems like a team making a first down on a third and long [ more than 10 yds] is something that happens outside of what I would think being the normal statistical range. Just my 2 cents.


Everything you said, ccsahara, I have also noticed.

I will go one further...increase in penalties. Since the release of 4.1, I have noticed (a hunch really, without researching) that there seems to be more penalties. These penalties also seem to be happening more at very unfortunate times...like a touchdown called back by holding, a made field goal (especially a made 50+yd that turns into a punt after the penalty), a great run, a caught long pass (the penalty is after the catch is made and happens 20yds behind the play).

Again, I haven't really compared the total penalties with those of 4.0, but it does seem like there have been more. Anyone else notice a difference?

Re: 0.4.2 Discussion

By Ragnulf-le-maudit
5/26/2017 2:02 pm
In mylast game, the sack total amounts to 24 (12/12). I was trying my second QB, still with 82 int., he took a lot of sacks waiting to throw, and two safeties.
My previous game had a lot of sacks too (i was playing my first string QB)