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Re: [Update] Game engine version fbecf8b

By setherick
11/17/2018 1:19 pm
Yes, that drop on short passes should be removed. It's easy to game plan for situations where you want the QB to throw the ball X-number of yards down the field. (I mean you posted some of the rules I use. ;))

Most of the time, it's better to take whatever the defense gives you.

Also, knowing that the QB is going to check down to any WR running a short route opens up a lot of options in the passing game.
Last edited at 11/17/2018 1:31 pm

Re: [Update] Game engine version fbecf8b

By setherick
11/17/2018 1:48 pm
The only addendum I would make to the last post is that QBs should look at receivers that can make first downs on third downs before taking the open short route. If the open short route is all that is there, fine. But otherwise, QBs on third down need to find the marker.

Re: [Update] Game engine version fbecf8b

By chinaski
11/17/2018 3:09 pm
OL play still really bad. Sacks nonstop. Was there a change to how QB's play based off of their endurance or something? QB's seem to turn to garbage after the 3rd quarter.

Re: [Update] Game engine version fbecf8b

By raymattison21
11/17/2018 3:15 pm
chinaski wrote:
OL play still really bad. Sacks nonstop. Was there a change to how QB's play based off of their endurance or something? QB's seem to turn to garbage after the 3rd quarter.


I think that the qb is tired but so is everybody . Fatigue is linearly tied to weight and the big guys have been playing tired this whole season . I don't think any change was made but I wish fatigue was changed across-the-board .

Re: [Update] Game engine version fbecf8b

By Ragnulf-le-maudit
11/20/2018 3:14 am
shovel pass intercepted
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8972#1637278

LT turns away and allows the sack. Is it the cause of the sack, or does he turn because the DE makes a successfull move (does it show that he is lost)?
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8972#1637285
Last edited at 11/20/2018 3:35 am

Re: [Update] Game engine version fbecf8b

By setherick
11/20/2018 5:42 am
4/37 in a short passing offense. My game plan does not appear to have been called at all.

https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/box/8971

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QBs don't throw anticipatory throws anymore. Instead we get this: https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8971#1637099

I saw a lot of garbage like this: https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8971#1637109

And like this: https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8971#1637110

In fact, almost every check down pass to my RB went "high". Why?

And the wobbly ball bug is back.

It's not worth my time to watch any more film. I'm getting tired of bad commits and bad reversions.
Last edited at 11/20/2018 6:01 am

Re: [Update] Game engine version fbecf8b

By chinaski
11/20/2018 1:35 pm
Crappy sack/safety where the QB should have easily thrown it away. Saw plenty of sacks where my OL didnt block at all, just 5 DL running at the QB.

https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/8967#1636415

Re: [Update] Game engine version fbecf8b

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
11/20/2018 8:22 pm
setherick wrote:
I would say this is almost ready.


There are literally 3 changes between this sim and week 16: Fixing the bug where the QB would throw the ball away too immediately, fixing RB routes in the flat (that was what all the throwing into the middle of the line was about), and adjusting the timing on curl routes. I'm going back to the curl route setting previously, I was wanting to see if that was part of the reason for the quick throws so that may be back. I'm going to push this for the wild card games, but honestly there was nothing that touched pass blocking or QB logic (except for the fast throwaway).

Re: [Update] Game engine version fbecf8b

By setherick
11/20/2018 8:25 pm
jdavidbakr wrote:
setherick wrote:
I would say this is almost ready.


There are literally 3 changes between this sim and week 16: Fixing the bug where the QB would throw the ball away too immediately, fixing RB routes in the flat (that was what all the throwing into the middle of the line was about), and adjusting the timing on curl routes. I'm going back to the curl route setting previously, I was wanting to see if that was part of the reason for the quick throws so that may be back. I'm going to push this for the wild card games, but honestly there was nothing that touched pass blocking or QB logic (except for the fast throwaway).


Something definitely happened between the time I posted that and the garbage game my QB had last night. Watch the few clips that I posted. Every throw was like that. Every. Single. Throw.

There were other games that ended up looking like mine, but the point is, I ran the same game plan that was completing 70% by throwing a lot of passes to RBs. Last night, QB threw a lot of passes to the RB and missed almost every throw.

Something broke.

Re: [Update] Game engine version fbecf8b

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
11/20/2018 8:27 pm
I'm also going to remove some of the color commentary, I think it's causing more confusion than it is being helpful.