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Re: Beta update release

By setherick
3/27/2018 11:36 am
raymattison21 wrote:
setherick wrote:
1) Tackles are turning away from their man on all pass blocks

2) Here's another one of those plays where stutter seems to break open the route, but there is nothing in the PbP: https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/7875#1423299
a) 100 Route vs 100 M2M

3) https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/log/7875/1423304
a) The TE jukes the MLB SO HARD on this play that he decides to go cover someone else??? :/

4) QBs are NOT throwing away the ball nor trying to run from a sack. They are glued to the pocket.



3)a) 43 man coverage should be a liability . I play with some bad cover lbs in 87 and my 60 man cover guy gets beat all the time where my 14 man cover does that all the time. It could look better...maybe not sooooo hard.


Does he only have 43? To be honest, I didn't double check who was covering on that play. Then, yes, should be a liability. But he should at least remember who his man is right? This isn't pop warner. ;)

Re: Beta update release

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
3/27/2018 2:58 pm
After running a few seasons with the current code in testing the interceptions still seem too high; I'm going to reduce the interception attempt probability and hopefully convert some of those interceptions to knockdowns instead.

Re: Beta update release

By setherick
3/27/2018 3:53 pm
jdavidbakr wrote:
After running a few seasons with the current code in testing the interceptions still seem too high; I'm going to reduce the interception attempt probability and hopefully convert some of those interceptions to knockdowns instead.


Was going to post about crossing routes again today, but have not had time. These are especially vulnerable to INTs even with the "I didn't see the CB" code removed.

Re: Beta update release

By Ragnulf-le-maudit
3/28/2018 4:21 am
stutter step and ball thrown too far in front of the WR.
https://beta87.myfootballnow.com/watch/1582#289465

Great play by the CB, top of the screen
https://beta87.myfootballnow.com/watch/1582#289581


Last edited at 3/28/2018 7:29 am

Re: Beta update release

By setherick
3/29/2018 8:39 am
I haven't watched much film yet, but just scanning through stats and some of the game logs, and games look better statistically. I probably won't have time to break down much game film this weekend, so I'm curious to what other are seeing in their games.

I did notice this good example play of a WR breaking down a DB at the line and then the QB putting the ball far enough out in front the WR could run under it: https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/7897#1427292

Same play, different WR later: https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/7897#1427296

So some limited selection of plays suggests that stutter is working better.
Last edited at 3/29/2018 8:45 am

Re: Beta update release

By raymattison21
3/29/2018 12:10 pm
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/7888#1425720

I don't know how comfortable you guys are with horrible man coverage getting really confused . #46 with 16?man coverage just ignoring the RB.

Re: Beta update release

By raymattison21
3/29/2018 12:13 pm
Just to note a few other man to man oddities . If a back stays in to block his cover guy should do something , and that last second give up on coverage on fly/flag patterns happens a few times a game

Re: Beta update release

By setherick
3/29/2018 12:27 pm
raymattison21 wrote:
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/7888#1425720

I don't know how comfortable you guys are with horrible man coverage getting really confused . #46 with 16?man coverage just ignoring the RB.



Why the **** do you have a DB with <20 M2M? :)

That play is really strange. I'm trying to figure out what exactly happened, but I guess it's not outside the possibility that a defender with that low M2M completely blows an assignment before the play starts. It's like the SS doesn't know whether to cover the HB or the FB that is blocking.

raymattison21 wrote:
Just to note a few other man to man oddities . If a back stays in to block his cover guy should do something , and that last second give up on coverage on fly/flag patterns happens a few times a game


Can you find examples of this? The examples I've see is when my 100 M2M, 60 SP CB is covering a much faster WR with good Route skills. Eventually, the WR wins one of the M2M vs Route rolls and slips behind the CB. To me this makes a lot of sense, so I'm curious if you're seeing plays where the WR and CB are equally matched.
Last edited at 3/29/2018 12:30 pm

Re: Beta update release

By raymattison21
3/29/2018 2:58 pm
setherick wrote:
raymattison21 wrote:
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/7888#1425720

I don't know how comfortable you guys are with horrible man coverage getting really confused . #46 with 16?man coverage just ignoring the RB.



Why the **** do you have a DB with <20 M2M? :)

That play is really strange. I'm trying to figure out what exactly happened, but I guess it's not outside the possibility that a defender with that low M2M completely blows an assignment before the play starts. It's like the SS doesn't know whether to cover the HB or the FB that is blocking.

raymattison21 wrote:
Just to note a few other man to man oddities . If a back stays in to block his cover guy should do something , and that last second give up on coverage on fly/flag patterns happens a few times a game


Can you find examples of this? The examples I've see is when my 100 M2M, 60 SP CB is covering a much faster WR with good Route skills. Eventually, the WR wins one of the M2M vs Route rolls and slips behind the CB. To me this makes a lot of sense, so I'm curious if you're seeing plays where the WR and CB are equally matched.


https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/7888#1425610

Very Suttle is this one . ... did he go for the pick/knockdown and wiff?

Re: Beta update release

By raymattison21
3/29/2018 3:12 pm
https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/watch/7888#1425707

This one the wr dropped a wide open ball, but the db handled the stutter ok, but just let him run by before the ball got there